Antique Attributions Murky Part II

by John Werry on November 18, 2009 · 1 comment

in For The Record,Research

I think an equally important problem with making attributions is that we, on the whole, have long forgotten many fine makers from the Victorian era, probably numbering in the thousands – America alone, let alone globally. With an absence of labels, tags or stamps, we have nothing to remember them by except for old, buried newspaper articles of their factories closing or burning down.

There is no better example than this parlor set retailed and likely made by J. Ziegler & Co that was recently shared in the forum. “ThePeacockRoom” dug up a quote from Zeigler that “The firm offered “a large stock of plain and artistically rich furniture, all of their own manufacture...”.  So, according to them, they did not resell the work of other cabinetmakers.

The set has a surviving label on the underside confirming it is from J. Zeigler’s “Furniture and Decorations Warehouse” in New York.

J Ziegler Chair 300x225 Antique Attributions Murky Part IIJ Ziegler Sofa 300x225 Antique Attributions Murky Part II

If you would have been tempted to put a Herter Brothers tag on it, there is a reason that it wouldn’t have been too far-fetched to do so.  If you haven’t already read the whole forum thread, and to read about the connection between Herter Brothers and Zeigler, read the rest in the forum.

Also, see lot 110 in the upcoming Neal Auction sale this weekend for a comparable chair.

Related items for sale - hover mouse for more information

Pair Antique Mahogany Wooden & Marble Pedestals
7 Piece American Renaissance Parlor Set By Herter Bros
Early American Victorian Aesthetic Faux Bench Sofa
Fine Bronze  Amazon By Herter Ernst Gustav 1846 1917
Victorian Pottier & Stymus  Egyptian Revival Chairs
533 American Renaissance Revival Herter Brothers Table

{ 1 comment… read it below or add one }

james conrad November 18, 2009 at 4:27 pm

Yeah, i remember this thread, very unusual parlor set in that it had it’s original upholstery. In looking at the similar chair at Neal with modern upholstery, it certainly looks different. As a “brown furniture” guy who knows next to nothing about fabric/ textiles, i was hoping someone would stumble into that thread that did. I have heard there are firms that can restore/reweave fabric but in doing a google search i didnt come up with anything.

Reply

Leave a Comment

Previous post:

Next post: