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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I look at this chairs they in fact are the same chairs I puzzled over back in 1992 in a mall in Augusta, Ga.  I had  noticed that the feet had been tip out and the castors removed. If I remember at the time I first saw them I thought that they had been refinished when the feet were extended and the gold was added at that time. Though for some reason people keep mentioning &quot;water gilding&quot; more likely if they had been gilded when manufactored they would have been oil gilded and not burnished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I look at this chairs they in fact are the same chairs I puzzled over back in 1992 in a mall in Augusta, Ga.  I had  noticed that the feet had been tip out and the castors removed. If I remember at the time I first saw them I thought that they had been refinished when the feet were extended and the gold was added at that time. Though for some reason people keep mentioning &#8220;water gilding&#8221; more likely if they had been gilded when manufactored they would have been oil gilded and not burnished.</p>
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		<title>By: mayerwagner</title>
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		<dc:creator>mayerwagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize in advance for not remembering my source for this information, but I recently had a discussion with someone about this. As I understand it, the gilding on the Virginia Museum&#039;s sofa was a later addition over the original finish.  Might be worth following up directly with the curatorial staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize in advance for not remembering my source for this information, but I recently had a discussion with someone about this. As I understand it, the gilding on the Virginia Museum&#8217;s sofa was a later addition over the original finish.  Might be worth following up directly with the curatorial staff.</p>
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		<title>By: Lise Bohm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lise Bohm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Virginia Museum of Art in Richmond, VA has a Cornucopia Belter sofa in original gilding.   I saw it 12 years ago.    It was in the permanent exhibit.  
  

It is not the best example of Cornucopia.  The crest is not fully developped and the carving is flat.

Here is the link:

http://www.vmfa.museum/collections/54_15_2.html

Lise</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Virginia Museum of Art in Richmond, VA has a Cornucopia Belter sofa in original gilding.   I saw it 12 years ago.    It was in the permanent exhibit.  </p>
<p>It is not the best example of Cornucopia.  The crest is not fully developped and the carving is flat.</p>
<p>Here is the link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vmfa.museum/collections/54_15_2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.vmfa.museum/collections/54_15_2.html</a></p>
<p>Lise</p>
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		<title>By: Mario</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gilded furniture of the mid-19th century is known to have been produced in America.  The best American cabinetmakers were European transplants and were very familiar with European prototypes.  Gilded furniture was well-known in Europe at this time.  

Gilded furniture was created for the very upper crust element of society since such furniture was not applicable to the masses.  Gilded furniture of the &quot;Empire&quot; period was created by a number of American cabinetmakers (Quervelle, Lannuier, Phyfe, Meeks, etc.) although the gilding was often limited to accented areas.  The trend continued to the &quot;Rococo&quot; period in which some pieces were partially gilded, and some were fully gilded.  Although some of the previous posts doubt the existance of gilded Belter furniture, a pair of fully gilded &quot;Cornucopia&quot; type sofas were donated to the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts in 1954 by the Moore/Morrison families.
These two-sofas retain their original water gilding and are among the rarest of the Belter furniture.  

It should be noted that Belter produced works in Rosewood, Mahogany, Walnut and Oak.  In addition, a few chairs have come to light that are veneered in an unknown wood of light color.  It has been speculated that these chairs might have been experimental products by Mr. Belter.  I am of the opinion that such examples were likely gilded and over time had the gilding removed due to changes in taste.  One would suspect that Mr. Belter would have used a less costly wood to veneer his chairs if the veneer would have been covered in gilt since there would have been no reason to gild over rosewood.

In the 1853 New York Crystal Palace, Warren Ward exhibited a suite of furniture inlaid with pearl and gold, and Matthews and Stacey were awarded a prize for their suite of white and gold enameled furniture (Herter Brothers: Furniture and Interiors for a Gilded Age, pg 61). In addition, a suite of furniture owned by Robert Kelly which was donated to the MWPI by the Pruyn family was decorated in gold and white (American Furniture, Helen Comstock, #630-632). Clearly gilded furniture was known and appreciated in the mid-19th century.

Obviously gilding continued into the &quot;Aesthetic&quot; period as witnessed by the oeuvre of the major firms of the era, giving rise to the term, The Gilded Age.

Unfortunately, it is impossible to ascertain whether this set is original or not without seeing it in person.  If you are unsure of whether it is water gilded, a local gilder/conservator should be of assistance in answering this question based upon his/her
personal inspection.

If this set is original, it would rank with a small group of extant Belter furniture with its original gilding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gilded furniture of the mid-19th century is known to have been produced in America.  The best American cabinetmakers were European transplants and were very familiar with European prototypes.  Gilded furniture was well-known in Europe at this time.  </p>
<p>Gilded furniture was created for the very upper crust element of society since such furniture was not applicable to the masses.  Gilded furniture of the &#8220;Empire&#8221; period was created by a number of American cabinetmakers (Quervelle, Lannuier, Phyfe, Meeks, etc.) although the gilding was often limited to accented areas.  The trend continued to the &#8220;Rococo&#8221; period in which some pieces were partially gilded, and some were fully gilded.  Although some of the previous posts doubt the existance of gilded Belter furniture, a pair of fully gilded &#8220;Cornucopia&#8221; type sofas were donated to the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts in 1954 by the Moore/Morrison families.<br />
These two-sofas retain their original water gilding and are among the rarest of the Belter furniture.  </p>
<p>It should be noted that Belter produced works in Rosewood, Mahogany, Walnut and Oak.  In addition, a few chairs have come to light that are veneered in an unknown wood of light color.  It has been speculated that these chairs might have been experimental products by Mr. Belter.  I am of the opinion that such examples were likely gilded and over time had the gilding removed due to changes in taste.  One would suspect that Mr. Belter would have used a less costly wood to veneer his chairs if the veneer would have been covered in gilt since there would have been no reason to gild over rosewood.</p>
<p>In the 1853 New York Crystal Palace, Warren Ward exhibited a suite of furniture inlaid with pearl and gold, and Matthews and Stacey were awarded a prize for their suite of white and gold enameled furniture (Herter Brothers: Furniture and Interiors for a Gilded Age, pg 61). In addition, a suite of furniture owned by Robert Kelly which was donated to the MWPI by the Pruyn family was decorated in gold and white (American Furniture, Helen Comstock, #630-632). Clearly gilded furniture was known and appreciated in the mid-19th century.</p>
<p>Obviously gilding continued into the &#8220;Aesthetic&#8221; period as witnessed by the oeuvre of the major firms of the era, giving rise to the term, The Gilded Age.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it is impossible to ascertain whether this set is original or not without seeing it in person.  If you are unsure of whether it is water gilded, a local gilder/conservator should be of assistance in answering this question based upon his/her<br />
personal inspection.</p>
<p>If this set is original, it would rank with a small group of extant Belter furniture with its original gilding.</p>
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		<title>By: zeke</title>
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		<dc:creator>zeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The chairs are very plain with the only real ornament on the crest. The crest looks like it may be applied like some Belter chairs, fastened from the back, however a back is not visible to be sure. I would think most Belter furniture was made to order and if the purchaser wished gilding that may have been an option? Personally I think it looks clumsy and awkward, but someone, maybe Belter himself may have decided it added some pizzaz to an otherwise plain chair. I still want to believe it was added later, perhaps to hide a bad repair?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The chairs are very plain with the only real ornament on the crest. The crest looks like it may be applied like some Belter chairs, fastened from the back, however a back is not visible to be sure. I would think most Belter furniture was made to order and if the purchaser wished gilding that may have been an option? Personally I think it looks clumsy and awkward, but someone, maybe Belter himself may have decided it added some pizzaz to an otherwise plain chair. I still want to believe it was added later, perhaps to hide a bad repair?????</p>
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		<title>By: John Werry</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Werry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did  you see the one documented in the &quot;Belter book&quot; mentioned above?  Do you think they&#039;re wrong about &quot;original gilding&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did  you see the one documented in the &#8220;Belter book&#8221; mentioned above?  Do you think they&#8217;re wrong about &#8220;original gilding&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: raymond scarola</title>
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		<dc:creator>raymond scarola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! I&#039;ve been an avid Belter collector-and before, a Belter researcher for about 15 years now, and I have NEVER seen any Belter furniture with gold-gilding.
Thanks!
raymond</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! I&#8217;ve been an avid Belter collector-and before, a Belter researcher for about 15 years now, and I have NEVER seen any Belter furniture with gold-gilding.<br />
Thanks!<br />
raymond</p>
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		<title>By: John Werry</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Werry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zeke, that must be the book reference that the owner was referring to - good find.  It appears that the feet might also have gilding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zeke, that must be the book reference that the owner was referring to &#8211; good find.  It appears that the feet might also have gilding.</p>
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		<title>By: zeke</title>
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		<dc:creator>zeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks added to me too, but.........

In the book &quot;American furniture of the 19th century&quot; by the Dubrows on page 109 there is a Belter slipper chair. The caption reads: &quot;Note original gilding on the knees&quot; It&#039;s a black and white picture so it&#039;s hard to tell, but may in fact document original gilding on Belter furniture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks added to me too, but&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>In the book &#8220;American furniture of the 19th century&#8221; by the Dubrows on page 109 there is a Belter slipper chair. The caption reads: &#8220;Note original gilding on the knees&#8221; It&#8217;s a black and white picture so it&#8217;s hard to tell, but may in fact document original gilding on Belter furniture.</p>
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		<title>By: John Werry</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Werry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great story.  Did the bill of sale describe the gilding?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great story.  Did the bill of sale describe the gilding?</p>
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