Comments on: Herter Brothers-Attributed Cabinet May Be Allen & Brother

By: Another “If Only …” Moment | Rare Victorian

Another “If Only …” Moment | Rare Victorian — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:32:01 +0000

[...] photos of the sofa below and here’s another Allen & Brother that recently came and passed me [...]

By: peter

peter — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:30:58 +0000

hi i have a great couch but we cant figure out who made it it has all the looks of a herter brothers can you help us with all your knowledge thanks pete

By: F&J

F&J — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:30:54 +0000

Absolutely Allen & Brother…..carvings, construction, finishes and the incising match other identified pieces.

By: Ian Berke

Ian Berke — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:28:56 +0000

Good analysis! I have one of the pair of sphinx figures that flank the cabinet you illustrate from Gems. Sold as a free standing pedestal with its original rectangular base and turned urn above her head, which supports a somewhat larger round top. Have always been suspicious that it was a fragment from a larger piece, and your illustration is proof. Thanks and ciao, Ian

By: renaissanceman

renaissanceman — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:36:27 +0000

The pedestal is wonderful. I believe, like the one I own, it was designed as a music cabinet combination display pedestal, perhaps to hold a bronze or marble statue. I can assure all your readers that indeed the item at the recent auction was made by Allen Brothers and resembles about four other similar versions, one of which I own. I believe the one I own has slightly sharper carving detail, but lacks the embellishments of the gilding, ebonizing and porcelain plaques. I have attached a photo of the item I own for you readers.

renaissanceman

By: RareVictorian

RareVictorian — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:10:30 +0000

I bet if it didn’t have the Herter tag on it, it would have gone for $6,000. Drat! I’ll get my Allen & Brother piece yet….

By: woodwright

woodwright — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:06:20 +0000

Very nice pedestal – good eye John. The similarities are striking w/ the Allen & Bro. cabinet/ pedestal you compared it to & I agree it was probably made by Allen & Bro. Their work was comparable to Herter Bros., they both had a great sense of design w/ great details – always visually interesting pieces. I love both makers work. It’s hard to choose a favorite between them.
The Allen & Bro. cabinet pictured on p. 145 of “Gems of the Centennial” is a 90% + match for a cabinet I saw (probably about a year ago and I believe has since been sold) on Southampton Antiques website. They attributed their cabinet to Allen & Bro. & after seeing this documented piece there is 0 doubt it was indeed their cabinet. The differences were that Southampton’s cabinet was Walnut (not Ebony), the side panels were solid walnut w/ no marquetry & the front door was glass rather than a marquetry panel, also theirs had a small box (almost like a cupola) built on top of it (unlike the one pictured in “Gems …”). All other details (form, incising, rings, large turnings, “ball” turnings, etc) are virtually all identical. I liked the cabinet when I first saw it and saved pics. of it – I’ll send them to John, I can’t post them here. Further evidence that makers often used the same form/ design and sometimes tweaked it a bit. woodwright

By: zeke

zeke — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:24:45 +0000

Great piece John! There is very little documented Allen and Brother furniture so not much to compare it to. There is a great Allen and Brother write up with pictures in “The Magazine Antiques”, May 1996 and while nothing really matches that one you bid on the design elements on some of the furniture have a very similar feel to them. I’m guessing Allen and Brother as well, my favorite Victorian furniture maker. The “Gems” cabinet is very similar, great work John.

By: jay

jay — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:45:51 +0000

I personally own the exact same cabinet and I purchased the cabinet and have owned the cabinet for 14 years in my collection
as an Allen Bros. cabinet, not Herter Bros., So I believe your post to be exactly correct !!!!
it is extremely well made and beautiful. the condition of my cabinet is impeccable, and never refinished as well.

The best part is that I paid $3500 for the cabinet from an 88 year old neighbor 14 years ago.

jay

By: R. Joseph Wiessinger

R. Joseph Wiessinger — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:05:43 +0000

What a wonderful little cabinet. “Victorian HOmes” magazine , Fall 1995 ran an article on pedestals by Nancy Ruhling. In this article is a cabinet exactly like the one you were looking at or might be the cabinet> Priscilla St. Germain was consulted about the cabinet and she did not assign a maker. But since it is constructed of Walnut, she attributed it to a Philadelphia maker. Some piece to have in your collection!!