Comments on: Carved Bust Arms Not Jenny Lind

By: For The Record: Kilian Brothers Worktable | Rare Victorian

For The Record: Kilian Brothers Worktable | Rare Victorian — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:45:44 +0000

[...] states it) mounts with female busts resembling the carved arms we’ve been beating to death on this site. The female mounts, skirt incisings, leg shape, and urn are all the same, though some hardware on [...]

By: AP

AP — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:47:14 +0000

Cowan’s is selling a daguerreotype image of Jenny Lind and her husband in its June 24th sale. Another interesting comparison (although at an older age).

http://www.cowanauctions.com/upcoming_dates_view_item.asp?ItemId=71903

By: The Helen Of Troy Theory | Rare Victorian

The Helen Of Troy Theory | Rare Victorian — Thu, 28 May 2009 22:16:51 +0000

[...] (Continuation from Part I and Part II) [...]

By: james conrad

james conrad — Mon, 25 May 2009 01:18:28 +0000

Joseph, heres the letter Dietz wrote in reply to Anna Tobin article in MA, worth a read.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1026/is_2_156/ai_55487306/

By: R. Joseph Wiessinger

R. Joseph Wiessinger — Sun, 24 May 2009 18:47:08 +0000

There is a wonderful article in “The Magazine Antiques” May 1999, by Anna Tobin D’Ambrosio, where this high style, mass produced furniture sold or made by various makers is discussed. Possibly some is actually made by the firms or some is just purchased and then resold by them with their name tags on the articles. Makers discussed are Kilian Brothers, Schrenkeisen, Mallard, and Jelliff. A reading of this article may shed some light on the matter.

By: james conrad

james conrad — Sun, 24 May 2009 17:18:50 +0000

John, you could very well be right. I went back and re-read the Dietz Rebuttal and he makes a pretty good case that Jelliff likely wholesaled high end product to Schrenkeisen. Though the highly secretive guild system in europe never really took hold in america the “trade secret” part did & its often frustrating in researching who did what and why.

By: RareVictorian

RareVictorian — Sat, 23 May 2009 14:38:55 +0000

John Jelliff retired from active participation in the company in 1860, so these arms which were carved 10-15 years after that were likely not under Jelliff’s design specification, though not out of the question as he continued to “consult” with Henry Miller who ran John Jelliff, Co.

I’ve always speculated, but can’t prove, that the arms were made by another manufacturer and bought by Jelliff, Hamburger, Schrenkeisen…

By: james conrad

james conrad — Sat, 23 May 2009 14:27:07 +0000

HEY, where did all the posters go? Considering Jelliff was married & had 6 daughters, isnt it possible the bust is one of them?

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9B04E0DB143EEF33A25757C0A9619C94629ED7CF

By: james

james — Wed, 20 May 2009 22:28:04 +0000

Well, i dont think one can push out jenny lind on the evidence presented in this post.

By: RareVictorian

RareVictorian — Wed, 20 May 2009 19:51:33 +0000

yes, I expect to be headed in that direction in the next installment. I just want to push Jenny Lind out once and for all, if possible, first.